American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1832, volume 4, number 2, page 95, quoting the Maryland Gazette of December 21, 1752, says:
"May 13, 1752, the prize of £40 was run for by Col. Tasker's mare Selima, and Capt. Butler's mare Creeping Kate, and won by the former.
On the 5th inst. [Dec 5th, 1752] a great match at Gloucester race ground, Virginia,
a four mile heat; Col. Byrd's chestnut horse Trial, against any that could be
brought, for 500 pistoles. One horse and three mares started against him, and
they came in thus:
Col. Tasker's bay mare Selima, 1
Col. Byrd's chestnut horse Trial, 2
Col. Thornton's grey mare, 3
Col. Tayloe's bay mare Jenny Cameron, 4
His bay horse Childers, distanced".
American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1834, volume 6, number 2, page 57, says - "The first race of note, of which we have any account, was won by Col. Tasker's imp. Selima, by the Godolphin Arabian, when four years old, at Annapolis, in May, 1752; and on the 5th of the ensuing December, at Gloucester, in Virginia, she beat Col. Bird's Trial, (or Tryall,) own brother to Yorick and Silverlegs, by imp. Traveller, (on which a challenge had been offered against any horse that could be brought against him,) Col. Tayloe's imp. Jenny Cameron, (by Blaze,) dam of Lloyd's Traveller, and Yorick's dam;) his horse imp. Childers and a mare of Col. Thornton's; a sweepstakes, 500 pistoles, four miles".
Racing in America 1665-1865, by John Hervey, volume 1, pages 92 and 93, says - "Five years old when she reached Belair, Selima was then supposed to be with foal, but if so, no trace of her producing in 1751 has been found. In 1752, being then seven, she was placed in training and came out at Annapolis, in May, where she defeated Captain Lawrence Butler's English mare Creeping Kate for a purse of L40. Not long afterward William Byrd III of Westover, prince of the Virginia magnates, issued a challenge to race his English horse Tryal against anything that could be brought against him for 500 pistoles a side. Not only did Colonel Tasker accept on behalf of Selima, but two Virginians also, Francis Thornton, of Society Hill, whose entry, a grey unnamed mare, has not been further identified; and John Tayloe II, of Mount Airy, who named his English mare Jenny Cameron and stallion Childers. The quintet met at Anderson's Race Ground, Gloucester, then the foremost one in Virgina, on December 5, 1752, with the following result;
Match, for a stake of 2,500 pistoles; one four-mile heat. [results abbreviated]
1. Selima
2. Tryal
3. Thornton's gr
4. Jenny Cameron
5. Childers
This race, in many ways the most important of the Colonial era, being for the largest sum (so far as known), the contestants owned by four of the most eminent breeders and sportsmen north and south of the Potomac, and marking the beginning of the great rivalry between them which subsequently prevailed, closed in a 'blaze of glory' the short turf career of Selima, she being then retired to the stud at Belair. There she remained until the death of Colonel Tasker in 1760, when at the dispersal sale of his horses she was bought by John Tayloe II and went to his Mount Airy stud, where she died in 1766, aged twenty-one".
The Morgan Horse and Register, by Joseph Battell, volume 1, pages 50 and 51, says - "Selima was by the Godolphin Arabian, and one of the most famous of imported mares. We notice that the last edition of the 'General Stud Book' in England credits her to the large Hartley Mare, selecting for that purpose a bay filly from that mare that was foaled in 1746 and got by the Godolphin Arabian. We hope that the general pedigrees of their stud book have more to sustain them than has this pedigree, or their pedigree of Lath, imported 1763, which the same edition says is the colt Protector, that appears in the produce of the mare Crazy, by Lath ; whose dam (Crazy's) was Bay Basto, by Childers; 2d dam by Basto ; 3d dam by the Curwen Bay Barb, etc. ; otherwise we will have to consider their foundation work as largely a series of guesses not sustained by evidence. Very possibly they accepted the American version, but they should have known better. Selima was chestnut and ran as a four-year-old at Annapolis, Md., in 1752. Protector ran in England in 1770. Lath ran in America and won in 1768-69-70-71 and was beaten in 1772, after which he was kept for stock. The advertisement of Lath in 1773, when he was owned by De Lancey, and so again his advertisement, by Mr. Goode, in the 'Virginia Gazette', 1779, states that his dam was by Lath; 2d dam by Childers; 3d dam by Makeless; 4th dam a full sister of Honeycomb Punch, by the Taffolet Barb ; 5th dam a natural Barb mare. De Lancey gave pedigrees very accurately and we have no doubt the above is entirely correct. It is also stated in this pedigree of Lath that his grandam was the grandam of Weasel and of Col. Tasker's Selima, which, too, is probably correct.
By referring to the 'General Stud Book', page 13, edition of 1891, it will be seen that a mare there called the Makeless Mare has precisely the pedigree of this third dam of Lath, and among her produce is, 1725, the filly, old Polly, bred by the Duke of Devonshire and got by Flying Childers. This old Polly has a filly, Polly, called Young or Devonshire Polly, also bred by the Duke of Devonshire, and got by Lath ; and this Young Polly has, in 1766, a filly by Shepherd's Crab. She produced every year from 1758 to 1768 inclusive, as appears in the 'General Stud Book' page 157, except 1761 and 1763. Here comes the opportunity for a Yankee guess that in 1763 she had a colt Lath, by Shepherd's Crab, that went to America. There is hardly a doubt of this, and it follows that old Polly, by Flying Childers : dam by Makeless; 2d dam a sister to Honeycomb Punch, by the Taffolet Barb ; and 3d dam a natural Barb ; was the grandam of Selima.
This last fact would be fairly well sustained from the advertisement of Lath, owned by De Lancey, for it is not to be supposed that De Lancey would have so stated without knowing it to be true. De Lancey often raced his horses at Annapolis, and had every opportunity to know about Col. Tasker's stock. But that this old Polly was the grandam of Selima is sustained by other and entirely independent testimony.
Among the get of Polly is a filly by Fox, which, the 'General Stud Book' states, was sold to Lord Godolphin. This Fox Mare, with her produce, appears on page 88, G. S. B., and among them is a bay stallion Weasel, foaled 1754, bred by Lord Godolphin, and got by the Godolphin Arabian. Her first progeny is the bay colt, Locust, by Crab, foaled, as it states, about 1744, and also bred by Lord Godolphin. Her produce between 1744 and 1754 are not given, but she has a filly in 1753, also bred by Lord Godolphin, and got by his Arabian. In Skinner's 'American Turf Register', Vol. 6, page 157 (1834) , the pedigree of Chloe, in the stud of Benj. Ogle Tayloe, Windsor, Va., is given, extending to Col. Tasker's Selima, of which it says: 'She was out of one of Lord Godolphin's best mares'. A note by the editor adds : 'Presented to Col. Tasker in England upon the express condition of her exportation and that she should not run in the kingdom'.
Page 423 of this same volume, in giving pedigrees of animals in stud of Thomas Emory, Queen Anne county, Maryland, gives that of Selima thus: 'Her dam was by old Fox and her grandam by Flying Childers' ; which is correct. Her dam is the Fox Mare above, and she was bred by Lord Godolphin and foaled in 1748".
American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1834, volume 6, number 3, page 157, Stud of Benjamin Ogle Tayloe, of Windsor, in Virginia, and of Washington City, in the pedigree of Chloe, says - "out of Tasker's famed imp. Selima, by the Godolphin Arabian, 'out of one of Lord Godolphin's best mares'." * The asterisk points to the following note by the editor - "Presented to Col. Tasker in England, upon the express condition of her exportation, and that she should not run in the Kingdom".
American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1834, volume 5, number 12, pages 643 and 644, in a letter to the editor, says - "I have seen it stated that the imp mare Selima, was got by the Godolphin Arabian, out of Snap Dragon. This is not so. The Stud Book makes Snap Dragon foaled in 1759. The Godolphin Arabian died in 1753. Snap Dragon produced a filly called Selima by the Ossory Arabian, in 1772. The imp. mare Selima was brought to this country with Othello in 1767. Imp. Selima, it has been said was foaled in 1746, by the Godolphin Arabian, and out of the large Hartley mare. The large Hartley mare produced a filly in that year by the Godolphin Arabian. This filly is not to be found in the Stud Book as a brood mare, and may have been imported. It is only lately that she has been designated as the produce of the large Hartley mare; on what authority I know not. Indeed it is of little consequence, as the reputation of her im- mediate and remote descendants, give ample proof of her purity of blood".
American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1832, volume 3, number 6, page 599, says - "The pedigree of the imported Selima being lost, we have to resort to tradition, conjecture, and probability to supply the place of authenticity. It has been said she was out of Snapdragon, by Snap, which is impossible, if she was got by the Godolphin Arabian. The Godolphin Arabian died the 25th of December, 1753. See historical list of horse matches for the year 1763, page 136. Snap was foaled in 1750. See page 76, of the Stud Book, printed in 1808. Snapdragon was foaled in 1759. See page 150, of said book. It has been said Selima was sister to Daphne. I find no sister to Daphne in the Stud Book. It has likewise been said she was sister to Babraham; he was foaled in 1740, and he had an own sister, a bay, foaled in 1746. See page 87. She was owned or foaled by Lord Cravens. Not being able to find where this filly has any colt or descendant recorded in the Stud Book, nor what become of her, I think it is very probable she was the imported Selima. We shall be obliged to rely mainly on the research of Crofts' Godolphin and Panton, to solve the doubt. I have written the above remarks in consequence of D's observation in volume 3d, page 488, that Selima's pedigree could not be found in the Stud Book; you can do as you please with them; if the colour and age of Selima was given it might help in this difficulty".
American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1834, volume 6, number 2, page 55, says - "If Selima was own sister to Babraham she was foaled in 1746, consequently she must have been six years old, and not four as stated, when she ran in 1752. It is evident she could not have been brought into this country, with Othello, in 1767".
American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1832, volume 4, number 2, page 100, in a letter to the editor, says - "Many inquiries have been made as to the pedigree of Selima. Nothing like certainty has been obtained. It has been said, that she was full sister of Babraham. He was by the Godolphin Arabian, out of the large Hartley mare, and was foaled in 1740. A bay filly foaled in 1746, the property of Lord Craven, was by the Godolphin Arabian, out of the large Hartley mare, and probably was afterwards called Selima. The Stud Book furnishes no additional information. In the pedigree of Mr. Delancey's imported horse Lath, it is stated that the grandam of Lath, by Flying Childers, was the grandam of Selima".
American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1832, volume 3, number 6, page 317, in the pedigree of Zamor, says - "His g. g. g. g. g. g. g. dam was Colonel Tasker's imported and celebrated Selima, who was by the Godolphin Arabian. Her dam was by Old Fox; her grandam was by Flying Childers".
American Turf Register and Sporting Magazine, by J S Skinner, 1834, volume 6, number 8, page 423, Stud of Thomas Emory of Queen Ann's county, Eastern Shore of Maryland, in the pedigree of Fanny Wright [full sister to Zamor], says - "out of Tasker's imp. and celebrated Selima, by the Godolphin Arabian. Her dam by Old Fox - Flying Childers".
The American Farmer, by J S Skinner, 1827, volume IX, page 398, Sporting Olio, The Famous Horse Lath, part of a letter written by Charles Sallard, Sr, on March 1st, 1779, says - "Lath is fifteen hands one inch high, strong and boney, was got by Shepherd's Crab, sire of Mr Vernon's Shepherdess, (at present the best mare in England,) the Duke of Devonshire's celebrated Fairy, and many other famous racers. Shepherd's Crab was a very excellent son of old Crab, and out of the famous Witherington mare, daughter of old Partner. The dam of Lath was got by old Lath, one of the best sons of the Godolphin Arabian, and out of Roxana, a daughter of the Bald Galloway, the fleetest horse (the Devonshire Childers excepted,) that ever ran over the Newmarket course. His (Lath above,) grandam by Flying Childers, great grandam by Makeless, out of a full sister to the Honeycomb Punch, son of the Taffolet Barb, his great great great grandam was a natural Barb mare. The grandam of Lath was the grandam of Col. Tasker's famous mare Selima and Lord Rockingham's famous horse Weasel".
These last four entries confirm the thesis of Randolph of Roanoke that Selima was sister to Lord Godolphin's Daphne. Selima and Daphne were both by the Godolphin Arabian out of full sisters by Fox out of Old Polly by Childers, who was the grandam of Lath. Selima and Daphne were sisters in blood.
The pedigree of the dam of Selima, incorporating the evidence and conjecture contained in this article:
| Fox mare | FOX 1714 |
CLUMSEY | GREY HAUTBOY | HAUTBOY |
| Arlington Barb Mare | ||||
| Darcy's Pet Mare | DARCY'S WHITE TURK | |||
| Darcy's Grey Royal | ||||
| Bay Peg | LEEDES ARABIAN | |||
| Yellow Bald Peg | SPANKER | |||
| Leedes Bald Peg | ||||
| Old Polly 1725 |
CHILDERS 1715 |
DARLEY'S ARABIAN | ||
| Betty Leedes | CARELESS | |||
| Leedes Arabian mare | ||||
| Makeless mare | MAKELESS | OGLETHORPE'S ARABIAN | ||
| Darcy's Yellow Turk mare | ||||
| Taffolet Barb mare | TAFFOLET BARB | |||
| Barb Mare |
According to the GSB, volume 1, 5th edition, page 9, Plaistow was a grey colt, foaled in 1730, by Flying Childers out of Old Ebony, foaled in 1714, by Basto out of the Duke of Rutland's Massey Mare, by Massey's Black Barb.
The Dublin Journal, Tuesday June 6th, to Saturday June 10th, 1749, Number 2321, says - "At the Castle of Contarf near Dublin. To be let to Mares this Season, a dark Sterling coloured grey Colt, comes six Years old, got lamed in Breaking in the Coffin Joint and Heel, which made him to stand training; He was got by the old famous Bolton Starling, out of a Mare the Duke of Devonshire favoured Capt Vernon with, by giving him the choice of a Filly out of any Mare in his Stud; she was got by Old Childers out of his old Ebony Mare, the Mother of Plastoes Dam; the Ebony Mare was got by Bastoe, bred by Sir William Ramsden, being a Son of the old Bierley Turk, who was the Sire of more running Horses than any Stallion in England in his Time, and particularly of Highlow, Grasshopper, Black Hearty, the Sire of Bonny Black, and Jigg; Ebony's Dam was the old Makeless Mare, full Sister of Scarr, Little John and Oyster Foot; Those that want to go further into the Pedigree of the Makeless Mare, may apply to Mr Crofts in Yorkshire; but this Advertisement need trace the Colt's Pedigree no higher, demonstrating him to be one of the best, and perhaps the highest blooded Horse in Europe; as to his Shapes, Health and Size, any Body is at Liberty to see him, and to send their Mares, if they think proper, at a Guinea a Leap and Trials, with half a Crown to the Groom.---There is likewise Conveniency of good Grass, and a secure Paddock for Mares".
The Dublin Journal, Tuesday June 19th, to Saturday June 23d, 1750, Number 2429, says - "At the Castle of Clontarf near Dublin, To be let out to Mares this Season, a Sterling coloured grey Horse, 7 Years old; he was got by the old Bolton Starling, out of a Mare the Duke of Devonshire favoured Captain Vernon with, by giving him the choice of a Filly out of any Mare in his Stud; she was got by Childers out of his old Ebony Mare, the Grandam of Plastow; the Ebony Mare was got by Bastoe, bred by Sir William Ramsden, being a Son of the old Bierly Turk, who was the sire of more running Horses than any Stallion in England in his Time, and particularly of Highlow, Grasshopper, Black Hearty the Sire of Bonny Black, and Old Jigg the Sire of Partner, out of a Daughter likewise of Bastoe; Ebony's Dam was the Old Makeless mare, full Sister to Little John, Oyster Foot, and Scar, who kept the Whip at Newmarket for several Year, as the best Horse in England; those that understand the Blood and Pedigree of Horses, must allow this Stallion to be one of the highest blooded Horses in Europe; as to his Size, Health, and Shapes, any Body is at liberty to see him, and to send their Mares, if they think proper, at a Guinea a Leap and two Tryals with Half a Crown to the Groom. There is likewise Conveniency of good Grass, and a secure Paddock for Mares".
The Dublin Journal, Saturday June 23d, to Tuesday June 26th, 1750, Number 2430, says - "This is to give Notice, that the young bay Stone Horse bred by Lord Massareene, who broke his Leg last Summer running upon the Maze Course, will stand at Antrim this Season to cover Mares; at a Guinea a Leap, and Half a Crown to the Groom. This Horse is above 15 Hands high, free from all natural Blemishes, and now rises 7 Years old, and was esteemed before he met with the above Accident to be the most promising Horse in the Kingdom of his Age; he was got by Traveller out of the Dam of Plastow; Traveller was bred by Sir John Dutton out of a full Sister of his Mare Wagtail, and got by the Godolphin Whitefoot; Plastow's Dam was bred by the Duke of Devonshire, and was got by Lord Finch's Arabian out of a Makeless Mare".
The Dublin Journal, Saturday June 23d, to Tuesday June 26th, 1750, Number 2430, says - "Plaistow to be let out to Mares this Season by Francis Reinolds of Two mile bridge near Clonmel in the County of Tipperary, for a Pistole a Leap and Tryals, and an English half Crown to the groom. He is a fine chesnut, well marked above 15 Hands high, perfectly sound, and only 7 Years old last May, which was his first Season of covering; from the Number of Mares now in Foal by him, he appears to be very fruitful, and has been approved of by good Judges as a proper Stallion for breeding either Officers Horses or Fox hunters; his Sire was the famous Horse called Plaistaw, who was got by the Duke of Devonshire's Childers, his dam by the Sutton Turk, his great Grandam by Basto, Sire to the Dam of Old Crab, Second, Black Legs, Snip, and Bay Motte. This Horse's Dam known in England by the Name of Miss Brampton (where she won several Plates) was bred by Mr Taylor near Beverly, in Yorkshire, who was got by Capt Appleyard's Old Royal, who got the dam of Conqueror, and Lord Portmore's Ball'd Charlotte, and his Dam was got by Castaway, who got Ball'd Charlotte's Dam".
According to the GSB, volume 1, 5th edition, page 83, Fair Wanderer was - "Bred by Lord Gower, and given by him to Mr Keeling of Durham, got by an Arabian (which was given by the Duke of Devonshire to Lord Finch)".
Pick's Turf Register, volume 1, page 42, says - "Plasto, (A Grey Horse - Foaled In 1730,) Bred by and the Property of the Duke of Devonshire. Plasto (own brother to Lord Portmore's Ebony) was got by his Grace's Childers ; his dam, the Duke of Rutland's Old Ebony, (own sister to Brown Betty) by Basto, out of the Duke of Rutland's Massey Mare, by Mr. Massey's Black Barb". Also, page 43, says - "Ebony, generally called Young Ebony, (a Bay Mare, foaled in 1728) was bred by the Duke of Devonshire, and sold to Lord Portmore".
DUBLIN JOURNAL DUBLIN JOURNAL DUBLIN JOURNAL DUBLIN JOURNAL GSB PICK
Number 2321 Number 2429 Number 2430 Number 2430
mare mare mare Massey Mare Massey Mare
by Makeless by Makeless by Makeless by Massey's Black Barb by Massey's Black Barb
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Ebony Mare Ebony Mare | mare Old Ebony Old Ebony
by Basto by Basto | by Basto by Basto by Basto
[Mother of Plastoes Dam] [Grandam of Plastow] | | | 1714 (own sister to Brown Betty)
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mare mare Plastow's Dam mare | |
by Childers by Childers by Lord Finch's Arabian by Sutton Turk | |
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GREY COLT GREY COLT BAY COLT PLAISTAW PLAISTOW Young Ebony PLASTO
by Bolton Starling by Bolton Starling by Traveller by Childers by Childers by Childers by Childers
1743 1743 1744 | 1730 1728 1730
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PLAISTOW
1743
It is clear from the above evidence that the dam of Plaistow was not Old Ebony, but her daughter by the Sutton Turk. The Sutton Turk would appear to be the "Arabian (which was given by the Duke of Devonshire to Lord Finch)". The next advertisement shoes that the "Arabian (which was given by the Duke of Devonshire to Lord Finch)" was Sutton's Chesnut Arabian.
The Universal Advertiser, Dublin, Saturday, April 16, 1757, Number 466, says - "Messrs Thomas and Byrne’s Horses stand in Tuam, and cover Mares till August next. Prim, at a moidore, and half a Crown to the Man: Popit, at three British Crowns each mare, Leaps and Trials, to be paid at first Service. Prim was got by Crab, his Dam by Childers, his Grand-dam by the Sutton Chesnut Arabian, his great Grand-dam by Basto, his Great-great Grand-dam Makeless, out of a Daughter of the Taflet Barb. He was bred by me, / Thomas Panton, April 11, 1757.—Crab was Sire of Rib, Sloe, Black, Bustard, Skin, Brilliant, Spectator, and many others; in a high form; Prim beat the notes Horse Gustavus, when 5 Years old each, and many others of note, fine Shape, and no manner of blemish or disorder. Popit a chesnut Horse, 15 hands and half high, got by the famous Pigot’s Colt, his Dam by Col. Stratford’s Why-Not. Prim’s Pedigree at large will be seen at Tuam".
Plaistow was grey by the bay Childers out of a daughter of Sutton's Chesnut Arabian out of the black mare Old Ebony. It would appear that Old Ebony was a permanent or invariable grey, commonly known as roan. Roans are born more or less grey, though this may only be obvious after the first change of coat. These never turn white, however, and the basic colour is always apparent.
According to Baily's Racing Register, volume 1, pages 44 and 45, the Duke of Devonshire's Plaistow was a grey horse by Childers. His dam is shown as Old Ebony, but in the parlance of the day this meant she was of the line of Old Ebony.
The Dublin Journal, April 28-May 2, 1741, says - "Plaistow is to be let out to Mares this Season at so small a Price as two Moydores, by Mr Murray of Maplestown in the County of Carlow, who lately purchased him from Sir Edward Obrien, Bart. He was got by the Duke of Devonshire’s famous Childers, his dam by an Arabian his Grace bought of Sir Robert Sutton for 370 l, his Grand dam by Basto, who was the sire of Second’s Dam, his Great-grand-dam by Makeless, out of a full Sister to Honey come-Punch".
The following entry appears in the General Stud Book, volume 1, 5th edition, page 13:
MAKELESS MARE,
Bred by the Duke Devonshire, her dam, full sister to Honeycomb
Punch, by The Taffolet (or Morocco) Barb.
* f. by Basto - - - - Duke of Devonshire
1725 f. Old Polly, by Flying Childers - Duke of Devonshire
* This mare was dam in 1720 of b.f. Mermaid, by The Sutton
Turk, and of a f. by Flying Childers, dam of Gaul'em, by Starling.
From this mare Dungannon descends.
The Royal Studs of the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Centuries, by C M Prior, page 141, under "A pedigree off the mares belonging to the Right Honble The Earl off Godolphin, att his lordship's studd at Babraham" says - "The Fox Mare was got by Fox, her dam by Childers, her grandam by Makeless, out of a full sister to Honey Comb Punch. My Lord had her in 1748". This is the dam of Weasel.
According to the GSB, volume 1, 5th edition, page 126, and Pick's Turf Register, volume 1, page 87, Sloe was a black colt foaled in 1740 by Crab out of a mare by Childers out of Mermaid. This Childers mare and Plaistow share the same crosses, while Gaul'em and the 1743 Starling Colt also share the same crosses. This makes it more than possible that the above Makeless mare was the Massey Mare. The dam of Old Polly might have been the Massey Mare or her sister.
Early American Turf Stock, volume 1, pages 156 and 157, quoting The Maryland Gazette, July 22, 1762, says - "Just imported, in the Elizabeth, Capt. Morrison, from London, and to be sold by the subscriber in Baltimore-Town, a beautiful grey mare, near sixteen hands high, whose pedigree I am favour'd with from under his Royal Highness the Duke of Cumberland's own hand. Extract of which is as follows: 'The pedigree of Young Ebony, 29th April, 1762 : She was got by H. R. H. the Duke of Cumberland's Grey Arabian, called Muley : her dam by Mr. Panton's Old Crab : her grand dam by the Devonshire Childers : her [third] dam by Basto : her [fourth dam] by the late Duke of Rutland's Black Barb, which King William gave his Grace : out of the famous Massey Mare. She was bred by His Royal Highness, and is eight years old this grass, and no more. I have it further attested by Mr. Bernard Smith, Stud Groom to his Royal Highness . . . that this Ebony was covered by H. R. H. the Duke of Cumberland's bay horse Cato, on the 13th April, 1762 . . . [and] the groom who had the care of this mare doubts not her being with foal by this horse . . . Baltimore-Town, Md., July 20, 1762. Jonathan Plowman '".
DUBLIN JOURNAL GSB DUBLIN JOURNAL GSB MARYLAND GAZETTE
Number 2321 Number 2430
mare mare Massey Mare
by Makeless by Makeless |
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Ebony Mare mare mare Old Ebony mare
by Basto by Basto by Basto by Basto by Basto
[Mother of Plastoes Dam] | | | 1714 |
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mare mare Mermaid mare | |
by Childers by Childers by Sutton Turk by Sutton Turk | |
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GREY COLT GAUL'EM mare PLAISTAW PLAISTOW mare
by Bolton Starling by Bolton Starling by Childers by Childers by Childers by Devonshire Childers
1743 | | 1730 |
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SLOE PLAISTOW mare
by Crab 1743 by Old Crab
1740 |
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Young Ebony
by Muley
1756
Massey's Black Barb would appear to be "the late Duke of Rutland's Black Barb, which King William gave his Grace" and was almost certainly the stallion known as King William's Black No-tongued Barb.
The General Stud Book, volume 1, 5th edition, page 83, says - "Fair Wanderer, Bred by Lord Gower, and given by him to Mr Keeling of Durham, got by an Arabian (which was given by the Duke of Devonshire to Lord Finch), her dam, sister to Mixbury, by the Curwen Bay Barb".
The Royal Studs of the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Centuries, by C M Prior,
page 123, A Particular of His Grace the Duke of Devonshire's Horses, Mares,
Colts etc., at Chatsworth, the 20th day of June 1729, lists "One three
year old Filley out of Blose, and Ld Finch's Arab" and "One three
year old Colt out of Cinderwench, and Ld. Finch's Arab".
Page 124, lists "One five year old Gelding out of Limster & Cyprus
Arabian" and "One three year old Gelding out of Dumplin & Cyprus".
In 1729 the Duke of Devonshire had two three year olds by Lord Finch's Arabian and one three year old by the Cyprus Arabian.
The Universal Advertiser, Dublin, Saturday, April 16, 1757, Number 466, says - "Messrs Thomas and Byrne’s Horses stand in Tuam, and cover Mares till August next. Prim, at a moidore, and half a Crown to the Man: Popit, at three British Crowns each mare, Leaps and Trials, to be paid at first Service. Prim was got by Crab, his Dam by Childers, his Grand-dam by the Sutton Chesnut Arabian, his great Grand-dam by Basto, his Great-great Grand-dam Makeless, out of a Daughter of the Taflet Barb. He was bred by me, / Thomas Panton, April 11, 1757.—Crab was Sire of Rib, Sloe, Black, Bustard, Skin, Brilliant, Spectator, and many others; in a high form; Prim beat the notes Horse Gustavus, when 5 Years old each, and many others of note, fine Shape, and no manner of blemish or disorder. Popit a chesnut Horse, 15 hands and half high, got by the famous Pigot’s Colt, his Dam by Col. Stratford’s Why-Not. Prim’s Pedigree at large will be seen at Tuam".
The Dublin Journal, Thursday, April 14, 1753, says - "Bay Infant, a strong beautiful young Horse, finely marked, to be let to Mares this Season at Thurles, in the County of Tipperary, at thirty Shillings each mare Leaps and Tryals, and half a Crown to the Groom: His Dam was got by Lord Winchelsea's Arabian, his Grand Dam was Lady Gainesbrough's famous Cloey got by Basto, his Great Grand Dam was the young Massy Mare got by the Earl of Stamford's Turk. His Great Great Grand Dam was the Duke of Rutland's famous Massy mare got by Mr Masse of Puddington's noted Barb; this Bay Infant was got by the noted Flying Infant, Flying Infant's Dam was bred by Lord Goran and got by Strang[elog]e's Arabian, his Grand Dam by King William's Barb, his Great Grand Dam by Leed's Arabian, his Great Great Grand Dam by Old Spanker, his Great Great Great Grand Dam by General Farfax's Turk and a natural Barb Mare, Flying Infant was got by Gray Infant, Gray Infant got by Gray Hound, his Dam by Crofts's Brown Barb, his Grand Dam (which was Desdemona's Dam) got by Makeless, her Dam by Brimer, her Dam by young Dodsworth out of a Burton Barb Mare. This Bay Infant is intirely the Breed of all the above noted Arabs, Barb, &c which Pedigree is very well attested, and to be seen with the Horse at Thurles, where the only five of his getting are to be seen; and will stand the Test as to Figure, Marks and Size, against any Stallions getting".
The Devonshire Chesnut Arabian or Turk was full brother to Childers by Darley's Arabian out of Betty Leedes. He was later known as the Cyprus Arabian and was standing at Hampton Court in 1725, when Dumplin was covered. See THE CHESNUT ARABIAN AT HAMPTON COURT for more information.
Sutton's Chesnut Arabian, which the Duke of Devonshire purchased from Sir
Robert Sutton, was later given to Daniel Finch, who was known as Lord Finch
until 1730, when he became the 8th Earl of Winchilsea. He was also known as
the Sutton Turk.
A later Devonshire Chesnut Arabian and the Devonshire Grey Arabian were standing at the Duke of Devonshire's stud in the 1750s.
The Royal Plate at Ipswich on June 6, 1727 was won by Mr Pelham's brown horse Foxhunter. This race was for five years old horses, so foaled in 1722 or later. Mr Howe's Foxhunter was bred in 1722, by Mr Robinson, but was variously described as chesnut or grey, so could not have been the winner. Cheny's Racing Calendar for 1743 and three advertisements from the Stamford Mercury in 1733, 1735 and 1737 appear to describe the winner of this race.
Cheny's Racing Calendar for 1743, in the index, page xxxvii, says - 'Sheppard was got by a Horse that had been the late Lord Howe's call'd Foxhunter; he won a King's Plate or two; he was out of the late Duke of Rutland's Massey Mare, and got by a Son of the Crofts Commoner, Son of the Place White Turk'
The Stamford Mercury, Thursday, April 5, 1733, says - "There is now in the Hands of John Wilkins, at the King's Arms in Grantham Lincolnshire, a bright bay Stone Horse, full 15 Hands high, able to carry 16 Stone a Fox-hunting. He was out of the Duke of Rutland's old Massey Mare, and was got by a full Brother to Scar, which Horse was got by Makeless, and out of a Brimmer Mare (and Scar was allowed to be the best Horse in England for his Time) This Horse won a Royal Plate and a Match at New Market, and was afterwards taken to Fox-hunting. N. B. This is a fresh Horse, and the third Year of Covering. He leaps a half a Guinea and a Shilling the Man, the Money to be paid down. This Horse has been very successful in getting of Foals both for Strength and Beauty. There is good Grass for Mares".
The Stamford Mercury, Thursday, March 27, 1735, says - "There is now in the Hands of Mrs. Wilkins, Widow, at the King's Arms in Grantham, Lincolnshire, a bay Stone Horse, full fifteen Hands high, and able to carry 16 Stone a Fox-hunting. He was bred by Lord How, got by a full Brother to Scar, and out of the late Duke of Rutland's Massey Mare, and commonly known by the Name of Fox-hunter. He won a Royal Plate, and a Match at Newmarket, and afterwards taken to Fox-hunting. He leaps as usual, the Money to be paid down. N. B. Whoever is indebted to the late John Wilkins, are desired to pay the said Debts to his Widow".
The Stamford Mercury, Thursday, April 14, 1737, says - "There is now in the Hands of Mary Wilkins, at the King's-Arms in Grantham, Lincolnshire. A Bright Bay Stone Horse, full fifteen Hands high, able to carry sixteen Stone a Fox-hunting, and got by a full Brother to Scar, (and Scar was allowed to be the best Horse in England for his Time) and was out of the Duke of Rutland's Massey Mare. He won a Royal Plate and a Match at Newmarket, and afterwards taken to Fox-hunting. N. B. He leaps at Half a Guinea a Leap and a Shilling the Man, the Money to be paid down. He's very successful in getting of Foals. Joyst may be had at reasonable Rates".
CHENY 1743 STAMFORD MERCURY 1733 STAMFORD MERCURY 1735 STAMFORD MERCURY 1737
PLACE'S WHITE TURK BRIMMER
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HOWE'S FOXHUNTER WILKIN'S HORSE HOW'S FOX-HUNTER WILKIN'S HORSE
The Ipswich Journal, Saturday, April 11, 1747, Number 426, says - "This is to give Notice, That the Famous Horse called Fearnought, is still in the Hands of Mr William Garthside, of Rigsby, near Alford in Lincolnshire; and by the Desire of Numbers of Gentlemen in the South, Covers this Season at Mr Abraham Wallett’s of Long-Sutton in the said County, at One Guinea a Mare, and One Shilling the Man. He was got by Doctor, whose Sire was the Duke of Rutland’s Cyprus, out of a Commoner Mare. His Dam was got by Oyster Foot, who was Son of the famous Merlin belonging to the late Duke of Ancaster, and out of a Leister Mare that was Sister to his Grace’s Black Legs, who broke his Leg when running against Fox at Lowes. He has also a Colt which comes four Years old, a Red Roan, got by Fearnought, and out of a Mare got by Mr Lister’s Ball, who was got by Mr Hall’s Arabian. He is full Fifteen hands high, and able to carry Eighteen stone, free from all Blemishes, and without dispute is as fine Horse as ever was bred in England, both for Shape and Action. He Covers at Rigsby near Alford this Season, at one Guinea the Mare, and One shilling the Man. N B Proper Joyce at both Places for Mares which come to stay".
The Dublin Journal, Tuesday June 6th, to Saturday June 10th, 1749, Number 2321, says - "At the Castle of Contarf near Dublin. To be let to Mares this Season, a dark Sterling coloured grey Colt, comes six Years old, got lamed in Breaking in the Coffin Joint and Heel, which made him to stand training; He was got by the old famous Bolton Starling, out of a Mare the Duke of Devonshire favoured Capt Vernon with, by giving him the choice of a Filly out of any Mare in his Stud; she was got by Old Childers out of his old Ebony Mare, the Mother of Plastoes Dam; the Ebony Mare was got by Bastoe, bred by Sir William Ramsden, being a Son of the old Bierley Turk, who was the Sire of more running Horses than any Stallion in England in his Time, and particularly of Highlow, Grasshopper, Black Hearty, the Sire of Bonny Black, and Jigg; Ebony's Dam was the old Makeless Mare, full Sister of Scarr, Little John and Oyster Foot; Those that want to go further into the Pedigree of the Makeless Mare, may apply to Mr Crofts in Yorkshire; but this Advertisement need trace the Colt's Pedigree no higher, demonstrating him to be one of the best, and perhaps the highest blooded Horse in Europe; as to his Shapes, Health and Size, any Body is at Liberty to see him, and to send their Mares, if they think proper, at a Guinea a Leap and Trials, with half a Crown to the Groom.---There is likewise Conveniency of good Grass, and a secure Paddock for Mares".
The Dublin Journal, Tuesday June 19th, to Saturday June 23d, 1750, Number 2429, says - "At the Castle of Clontarf near Dublin, To be let out to Mares this Season, a Sterling coloured grey Horse, 7 Years old; he was got by the old Bolton Starling, out of a Mare the Duke of Devonshire favoured Captain Vernon with, by giving him the choice of a Filly out of any Mare in his Stud; she was got by Childers out of his old Ebony Mare, the Grandam of Plastow; the Ebony Mare was got by Bastoe, bred by Sir William Ramsden, being a Son of the old Bierly Turk, who was the sire of more running Horses than any Stallion in England in his Time, and particularly of Highlow, Grasshopper, Black Hearty the Sire of Bonny Black, and Old Jigg the Sire of Partner, out of a Daughter likewise of Bastoe; Ebony's Dam was the Old Makeless mare, full Sister to Little John, Oyster Foot, and Scar, who kept the Whip at Newmarket for several Year, as the best Horse in England; those that understand the Blood and Pedigree of Horses, must allow this Stallion to be one of the highest blooded Horses in Europe; as to his Size, Health, and Shapes, any Body is at liberty to see him, and to send their Mares, if they think proper, at a Guinea a Leap and two Tryals with Half a Crown to the Groom. There is likewise Conveniency of good Grass, and a secure Paddock for Mares".
An advertisement in the Leeds Mercury for April 3, 1750, says - "This is to give Notice, That the famous Stallion called Oyster-Foot, now belonging to Ellis Nuter of Burnley in Lancashire, and formerly to John Hitchon of the same Place, deceased, will attend for Leaping of Mares all the ensuing Season on the several Market Days at Leedes, Wakefield, Halifax, Rotherham, Barnsley and Sheffield, in the County of York. This Stallion is a brown Bay, with a Race down his Face, his two hind Feet White, and a beautiful, strong, well proportioned Horse; was bred by 'Squire Townley, of Royal, in Lancashire, and got by the old Duke of Rutland's Oyster-Foot, who was got by 'Squire Lister's Turk, that got the Duke of Devonshire's Scarr, and the Duke of Kingston's Brisk, who were both in the first Forms at New-Market in their Time, out of a Dam of Sir Ralph Ashton's of Whaley-Abbey, in Lancashire, who was full Sister to the famous Fox, that beat the Witty Gelding at New-Market upon a Match for 1000 l. a Side. For further Particulars of Oyster-Foot's Performances enquire of John Whally who attends him".
According to the GSB, volume 1, 5th edition, page 114, the Duke of Devonshire's bay colt Old Scar was foaled in 1705 by Makeless out of Bay Layton by Darcy's Counsellor out of a mare by Brimmer out of Trumpet's dam by Place's White Turk out of a mare by Dodsworth out of the Layton Barb Mare.
IPSWICH JOURNAL LEEDS MERCURY DUBLIN JOURNAL
ANCASTER MERLIN [LISTER'S GREY TURK] CLUMSEY SQUIRE LISTER'S TURK MAKELESS
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OYSTERFOOT = Leister mare ANCASTER BLACKLEGS FOX mare = RUTLAND SCAR KINGSTON mare LITTLE JOHN OYSTERFOOT OLD SCAR
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FEARNOUGHT
by Doctor
This mish-mash of pedigree information was very commonplace at the time and was caused by the number of horses that had the same name and, in some cases, the same owner. There were two Scars both owned by the Duke of Devonshire
According to Pick's Turf Register, volume 1, page 3, and the errata and addenda, the Duke of Devonshire's Old Scar was by Makeless, was foaled in 1705 and ran from 1710 to 1713, after which he became a stallion in the Duke of Devonshire's Stud.
According to Baily's Racing Register, volume 1, pages 4 and 6, the Duke of Devonshire's Scar was beaten by the Duke of Bridgewater's Spot on October 25, 1718, and beat Lord Hillsborough's Ruffler on April 21, 1721. This horse was probably foaled after 1703, so if he was the son of Squire Lister's Turk then he was more likely to have been sired by Lister's Grey Turk. The Duke of Kingston's Brisk, foaled about 1703, was probably by Lister's Turk alias Byerley's Turk.
The advertisements in the Dublin Journal say the Ebony Mare's dam was full Sister to Little John, Oyster Foot, and Scar, but the Ebony Mare's sire was Basto by Byerley's Turk and making him full brother to Little John, Oyster Foot, and Scar would fit better with the pedigree in the Leeds Mercury. The next two advertisements show that Little John was foaled in 1726 and did indeed belong to the line of Byerley's Turk.
The Newcastle Courant, Saturday, March 16, 1733-4, Number 464, says - "Brisk the Sire of Mr Jackson's gray Mare, the Gardiner's Favourite, which won six Kings Plates, and likewise the Colt, Little John, which won the Morpeth Plate in 1730, 4 Years old, and Hounsle at 5 Heats. Brisk is now in the Hands of Thomas Bridgwater, and will be leapt at Half a Guinea per Mare, and a Shilling to the Keeper, at William Harrison's at Tuddo, within 3 Miles of Durham, he will be shown at Bishop Auckland, and likewise at Durham. He is a strong Horse, well-fashioned, 15 Hands and half an Inch high. His Pedigree, as follows, he was got by Lord Widdrington's gray Turk, which was a Son of Mr Lister's Turk, and bred by Mr Lister, which was full Brother to old Brisk and Coney Skins his Dam, was bred by Mr Wilks, and got by old Hautboy, and his grand Dam was out of one of Lord Darcy's royal Mares, and got by old Bustler".
The Newcastle Courant, Saturday, January 29, 1731-32, Number 351, says - "The Sire of Mr. Jackson's Grey Mare, the Gardiner's Parrot, is now in the Hands of Thomas Bridgwater, in Scruton in Yorkshire, and leap'd at a Guinea a Mare, and 2s. 6d. to the keeper, with Grass and good conveniencies, one Mile from the Salutation in Leeming-Lane, 3 from Bedale, and 4 from North-allerton ; a strong Horse, and well fashioned, 15 Hands and Half an Inch high, the Sire of young Brisk, was a Son of Mr. Lister's Turk, and out of the Dam of Old Brisk ; the Dam of young Brisk was out of the Dam of Mr. Wilk's Spot, and got by old Hautboy, and his Grand Dam was out of one of the Lord Darcy's Royal Mares, and got by old Buster".
The Ipswich Journal, Saturday April 3. 1742. No 164 This is to give Notice, that Mr George Baxter, at the Fleece in Thetford, has a Horse that covers Mares at 10 s 6 d a Leap this Season; the Money to be paid at the Stable-Door, Leap and Trial, by Reason it will save a great Expence and unknown Trouble: It is Fire-Tail, late Mr Thomas Panton’s of New-Market; he was got by the Duke of Devonshire’s Childers, his Dam by the Duke of Somerset’s famous Horse Commoner, his Grand Dam by Makeless, out of a Thornton Mare. He is adorn’d with Beauty, and is finely mark’d; the Duke of Devonshire’s Horses call’d Plaistow, Fleeceson, and Sekend, being his Brothers. he has got a great many fine beautiful Colts about the Country, and is constantly to be heard of as above. N B Mr Baxter has good Grass for Mares that shall be sent to his Horse at 3 d a Night".
The Stamford Mercury, Thursday, May 23, 1728, says - "This is to give Notice, That the Chesnut Horse calle'd Doctor, which was Mr Panton's, is now kept at the Warren Lodge in Grimsthorpe Park, and leaps for half a Guinea a Leap and Tryal. N B His Sire an Arabian, his Dam a Daughter of Old Commoner, out of a Makeless Mare [Chesnut Thornton], whose Dam was a Daughter of Brimmer [Old Thornton], out of a Mare got by Dicky Pearson, Son of Old Dodsworth's Barb, out of a Burton Barb Mare, as is certified under the Hand of the Breeder".
The GSB, volume 1, 5th edition, page 9, says - "Brown Betty, foaled 1713, was the dam in 1727 of b. c. Fox-Hunter (Cole's), by Brisk".
Pick's Turf Register, volume 1, page 34, says - "Foxhunter, (a bay-brown horse - foaled in 1727,) The Property of Mr. Cole. Foxhunter was got by Lord Lonsdale's Brisk, (son of Mr. Darley's Arabian) ; his dam, the Duke of Rutland's Brown Betty, (own sister to Old Ebony, Plasto's dam) by Basto, out of his Grace's Massey Mare, by Mr. Massey's Black Barb".
There must be some doubt that the sire was Brisk by Darley's Arabian.
MAKELESS Brisk's dam = BYERLEY'S TURK = Bay Peg = CLUMSEY
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Gardiner Mare DOCTOR PELHAM'S FOXHUNTER Old Ebony Brown Betty = BRISK Sister to Brisk OYSTERFOOT
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GARTHSIDE'S FEARNOUGHT COLE'S FOXHUNTER LITTLE JOHN ALCOCK'S SPOT
1727 1726 [WYNN'S SPOT]
by Alcock's Arabian
1722
The two Oysterfoots that were brothers to the Duke of Devonshire's Scar may well have been the same horse, with any confusion over his identity being caused by the Duke of Devonshire owning two horses called Scar. It seems probable that this horse was the Duke of Rutland's Oysterfoot by Squire Lister's Turk. He was the sire of Squire Townley's Oysterfoot in about 1725, so could also have been the sire of Mr Gipp's Oysterfoot, running in 1724 and foaled in 1718 or earlier.
Miss Hip, bred by the Duke of Ancaster in 1722, was by Oysterfoot out of Virgin by Ancaster Merlin. This Oysterfoot may have been the son of the Ancaster Merlin, making this a half brother-sister union. The Duke of Ancaster had previously mated the Ancaster Merlin to his own grandaughter to produce the Slaping Mare in 1720.
The Kerry Evening Post, Saturday, March 6, 1830, says - "Young Actaeon, (Late the property of Lord Lismore,) Will Cover Mares this Season at Rockfield, near Killarney, from the 1st to the 15th of each month, the remainder at Churchtown, near Castleisland. Gentlemen's Mares £2, all others Half-Price, and Half a Crown to the Groom. Young Actaeon was bred by the late Rt. Hon. D. B. Daly - was got by Actaeon, his dam Young Louisa (the dam of Bob Gore and Rob Roy) was got by Baggott. out of Louisa by Friar ; great grand-dam Fatima, by Bustard, gt. gt. grand-dam by Bajazet, Flying Childers, Basto, &c. &c. Actaeon was got by Commodore, his dam Young Miss Doe, by Master Baggott ; grand-dam Miss Doe by Gamahoe ; great grand dam by Old England out of Lampton's Miss Doe. He is a fresh young Horse, above 15½ hands high, in good health and vigour. He is a sure Foal-getter, and his stock are remarkably strong. March 6, 1830".
The identity of the Flying Childers mare is not known but the Ebony family was mainly owned by Lord Portmore and he sent many horses to Ireland. Ebony's last foal in the stud book was in 1745 when she was 17 years old and Bajazet had foals in Ireland in 1753, 1754 and 1755. It is possible Ebony was sent to Ireland and had a filly by Bajazet when she was 25, 26 or 27.
The GSB, volume 1, 5th edition, page 381, says - "Honeycomb Punch, by the Taffolet or Morocco Barb, won at Newmarket in 1699 as Sir George Warburton's".
The American Farmer, by J S Skinner, 1827, volume IX, page 398, Sporting Olio, The Famous Horse Lath, part of a letter written by Charles Sallard, Sr, on March 1st, 1779, says - "Lath is fifteen hands one inch high, strong and boney, was got by Shepherd's Crab, sire of Mr Vernon's Shepherdess, (at present the best mare in England,) the Duke of Devonshire's celebrated Fairy, and many other famous racers. Shepherd's Crab was a very excellent son of old Crab, and out of the famous Witherington mare, daughter of old Partner. The dam of Lath was got by old Lath, one of the best sons of the Godolphin Arabian, and out of Roxana, a daughter of the Bald Galloway, the fleetest horse (the Devonshire Childers excepted,) that ever ran over the Newmarket course. His (Lath above,) grandam by Flying Childers, great grandam by Makeless, out of a full sister to the Honeycomb Punch, son of the Taffolet Barb, his great great great grandam was a natural Barb mare. The grandam of Lath was the grandam of Col. Tasker's famous mare Selima and Lord Rockingham's famous horse Weasel".
Honeycomb Punch is a misnomer. The correct name is Honey come punch or Honey come punch me.
The dam of Honey come Punch was a Natural Barb Mare. This does not mean that the mare was imported but that she was a pure bred Barb. At the time Arabian, Barb and Turk were used indiscriminately, so this mare would also have been known as an Arabian and a Turk.
It is only speculation but a likely contender for this Natural Barb Mare is the Tregonwell Barb Mare, who was grandam of Tantivy, son of the Taffolet Barb. She was also grandam of Alcock's Arabian, by Curwen's Bay Barb (Taffolet Barb), and great grandam of a mare by Spark, son of Honey come punch by the Taffolet Barb
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Massey Mare mare ALCOCK'S ARABIAN TANTIVY
by Makeless by Makeless by Curwen's Bay Barb by Taffolet Barb
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Chloe mare <==========> Mermaid <==================> mare mare LATH Selima GREY COLT WEASEL Daphne
by Basto by Sutton Turk by Sutton Turk by Sutton Chesnut by Childers by Shepherd's by Godolphin by Crab by Godolphin by Godolphin
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mare PLAISTOW mare Ebony GAUL'EM Black Selima Helen
by Winchilsea by Childers by Childers by Childers by Starling by Fearnought by Spectator
Arabian 1730 | | 1728 1743 | 1763 | 1763
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BAY INFANT SLOE Young Ebony PRIM mare Young Selima Doris
by Flying Infant by Crab by Crab by Crab by Bajazet by Tayloe's Yorick by Blank
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Young Ebony Fatima Calypso Aspasia
by Muley Ishmael by Bustard by Medley by King Herod
1756 | 1760 | 1793 | 1775
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Louisa Malvina DUNGANNON
by Friar by Hoome's Stirling by Eclipse
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by Baggott by Jackson's Pacolet
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by Actaeon
1812
Plaistow and Ebony were full brother and sister by Childers out of a Sutton Chesnut Arabian mare. The dam of Sloe was probably a full sister to Plaistow and Ebony by Childers out of Mermaid by the Sutton Turk. There is a lot of confusion here because most of the mares were called Ebony because they were descendants of Old Ebony. It, therefore, seems highly probable by dates that the dam of Gaul'em was also a full sister to Plaistow and Ebony.